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Newbie Q's, max RPM possible & application assitance
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:29 am
by EW57
Greetings, I'd like to find a programmable ignition to work with a 90 degree v-twin engine. Attached is the timing diagram, with the MJLJ work with this setup? Also, what is the maximum RPM's attainable with the MJLJ? Thanks!
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:50 am
by MartinM
Well, ignoring the injector requirements, which the MJLJ will obviously not do....
...and answering the easy question, the MJLJ/EDIS/standard coil combination won't do more than about 9500rpm in its four cylinder version, by design (I've got the details somewhere of why it tops out at that rpm, but not sure where....)
So is your engine fixed timing or variable - diagram makes it look like fixed?
Could you use a MJLJ/EDIS combination? Not sure - it makes my head hurt looking at the diagram
When the front cylinder is at TDC and the firing position (720 degrees), the rear cylinder is halfway through its inlet cycle i.e half way down the cylinder.
That's certainly not a standard 4-cyl engine configuration (eg see
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/powert.html), but it might be what happens on certain cylinders in an 8-cyl engine....and whether that means there's some chance of adapting something from an 8-cyl MJLJ installation is the bit that makes my head hurts (..and SWMBO is telling me to go out and do stuff NOW!

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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:58 pm
by EW57
Thanks for your reply, I should have mentioned that the stock ECU doesnt function correctly when the injection system is replaced with carbs, which is why I'm looking for a replacement (ignition only) programmable unit.
Theres a four tooth trigger (three short, one long) on the flywheel & a sensor to read the pulses, then the signal went to the ECU and the variable timing was taken care of there, so as far as the OEM sensor is concerned, its fixed timing. I've gotten the advance charts from the stock ECU (RPM/TPS).
Thanks again!
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:42 am
by Oliver Sedlacek
No, it wont work as standard. The EDIS is only intended for use with equally spaced firing intervals. You would also have to add a 36-1 crank sensor wheel.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:27 pm
by EW57
the 36-1 wheel could be made to work I think. Oliver, Forgive me for being dense, but is there enough programmable advance/retard to pull it off, or are there other non-standard mods that could be done, or would it be in my best interest to look for other alternatives? (which I havent been able to find easily)
Thanks again!
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:28 pm
by Oliver Sedlacek
Unless Brent thinks otherwise, I would look elsewhere. The EDIS just isn't designed for this application, and fiddling with advance/retard doesn't help.