Distributorless conversion
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:30 pm
Hi
I'm new here and I have a question, I think that some of you have an answer for me.
Here is my situation, I have multiple Ford Probe 2.0l (similar to 626 and mx6's from 93 to 97), 4 cylinders. I have one running greatly for race who had been turbo'ed and managed by a fully standalone megasquirt, DIYPNP that I adapted myself and runs great with a coilpack in wasted spark.
But I have another one (my wife's probe), which is a daily, so almost stock. I'd like to get rid of the distributor, not the whole but mainly the part which distribute the power. The ignitor and the coil are prone to fail, the rotor and cap wear with use and is quite ineffective. I'd like to convert it to a coil pack too, for a better and more durable set up.
But here is the problem, how to know which coil to fire? I precise I don't want to convert it to any standalone system for ease of use, regulations, etc.
The OEM system works like this:
- 2 hall effect sensors are in the disty, one for CMP signal which send 4 signals per cycle, 1 for each cylinder TDC, the other for CKP signal which send 1 signal per cycle, for cylindre n°1 TDC. I want to keep this part as it works well and it's needed by the ECU.
- coil and ignitor are in the disty, triggered by the ECU at the right time, the ECU send the signal after calculation of the advance regarding all of the parameters it gets. The ignitor and coil works as any other, very simple.
But if I want to run a coil pack with 2 coils and 4 towers in wasted spark, I need a system who knows which of the 2 coils it has to fire. I thought about an EDIS 4 triggered by another CKP sensor, but it can't be fired when you want just sending it a signal. You have to create a "SAW" signal, and it makes his own calculations with that... but it'd be to complicated to create this signal from the simple signal that the ECU send.
In fact I only need something who choose the right coil to fire when the ECU "tells" to fire. Can't we trigger this by looking at the injection events, or maybe with the stock hall sensors?
I hope I'm clear, because my english isn't perfect. If needed I have schematics.
I'm new here and I have a question, I think that some of you have an answer for me.
Here is my situation, I have multiple Ford Probe 2.0l (similar to 626 and mx6's from 93 to 97), 4 cylinders. I have one running greatly for race who had been turbo'ed and managed by a fully standalone megasquirt, DIYPNP that I adapted myself and runs great with a coilpack in wasted spark.
But I have another one (my wife's probe), which is a daily, so almost stock. I'd like to get rid of the distributor, not the whole but mainly the part which distribute the power. The ignitor and the coil are prone to fail, the rotor and cap wear with use and is quite ineffective. I'd like to convert it to a coil pack too, for a better and more durable set up.
But here is the problem, how to know which coil to fire? I precise I don't want to convert it to any standalone system for ease of use, regulations, etc.
The OEM system works like this:
- 2 hall effect sensors are in the disty, one for CMP signal which send 4 signals per cycle, 1 for each cylinder TDC, the other for CKP signal which send 1 signal per cycle, for cylindre n°1 TDC. I want to keep this part as it works well and it's needed by the ECU.
- coil and ignitor are in the disty, triggered by the ECU at the right time, the ECU send the signal after calculation of the advance regarding all of the parameters it gets. The ignitor and coil works as any other, very simple.
But if I want to run a coil pack with 2 coils and 4 towers in wasted spark, I need a system who knows which of the 2 coils it has to fire. I thought about an EDIS 4 triggered by another CKP sensor, but it can't be fired when you want just sending it a signal. You have to create a "SAW" signal, and it makes his own calculations with that... but it'd be to complicated to create this signal from the simple signal that the ECU send.
In fact I only need something who choose the right coil to fire when the ECU "tells" to fire. Can't we trigger this by looking at the injection events, or maybe with the stock hall sensors?
I hope I'm clear, because my english isn't perfect. If needed I have schematics.